They were not recruited with the kind of mental stability in mind that you need to deal with all the BS cops need to deal with.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-bragg-new-york-manhattan-nypd-4c0cb6ef067b2e3f2358ec9542c900cd
“crime across the five boroughs is nowhere near the levels seen in the 1990s, and while there was a rise in 2022, those figures are already trending down this year.”
Your perception of your own personal safety is not an objective measure of crime
FTFYReported crime is not an objective measure of crime and should not form the basis of a policing strategy.
When police cease to act on reports of crime, people have no incentive to report crime (except for major property crime which might be covered by insurance, and things like murder).
This is why we can't trust the crime stats where I live (San Francisco).
>Reported crime [...] should not form the basis of a policing strategy.
and:
>When police cease to act on reports of crime, people have no incentive to report crime.
Logically, then, reported crime should form the basis of a policing strategy, since it creates an incentive to report crime.
Past policing strategy means that current crime stats are unreliable. These current crime stats should therefore not form the basis of a future policing strategy.
If we're optimizing for getting results today, policing strategy should not rely on the flawed crime stats we have today.
If we're optimizing for the long term, then sure rely on crime stats, but first make it easy to report crime.
People will report crimes that:
- they think the police will do something about, and/or
- they need to report in order to file an insurance claim
If your car window gets smashed and you're not going to report it to your insurer lest it raises your premium next year, and if you know the police aren't going to investigate, why would you report it?
I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be serious or in jest.
I agree with the sentiment, but the reality is neither are cops.
Among soldiers that type is way more common as they are not being filtered out since they are not exposed to it. (The NCO:s being mean in boot camp is not the same thing since the soldier is a subordinate.)
My main point is that people seem to severely underestimate what the police deal with. I would not think that soldiers as a group would cause more problem than say Walmart clerks (lets pretend they would get proper training) if given weapons and power to patrol subways.
I've made this argument a lot of times with friends. I hyperbolically claim that the average police is a better person than a Walmart clerk, and I got a lot of shit each time. There is this saying that "power corrupts" but I rather believe that "power gives the ability to show that you are corrupt".
Among Walmart clerks there are probably people that really really can't "take shit" that would never pass basic training of soldiers due to anger management issues. So like, the claim could probably be 'cops > soldiers > Walmart clerks' in handling civilians without bad outcomes.
In addition to having to pass a medical records screen, most US servicemembers come from the middle three socioeconomic quintiles of the population. It is literally a middle-class institution. Yet the trope lives on of the supposedly stupid military member who only joined because they had no options.
I would guess, on average, that they're more mentally stable than, on average, police considering that many go into national guard service to fund their college aspirations.
The NYPD has one of the largest police budgets in the world, they have their own intelligence division and even overseas offices, and yet they seem unable to be able to station officers on the subway and now the national guard needs to step up. How did it come to this?
Granted homicide isn't the only violent crime in the world but there were the headlines a week or so ago that homicide rates were far higher in the states complaining about NYC's crime than NYC has. Is it really *that* dangerous?
It's always fun when finding out someone who lives in a rural area has a higher per capita crime rate than NYC while they complain about how NYC is a crime shithole.
I don't understand why this concept is still hard to grasp. If you lived in a low trust high crime society would you rather live in a tenement building or have your own acreage and gun?
That being said, yes Nyc is safer than many cities thanks to Giulianis continued policies that make new York city policing closer to a right wing fever dream than many would like to admit.
To be frank, the general public doesn't care about the extreme crime that most police forces concern themselves with. They just want to feel safe on the subway or walk home from work. They want to be able to have a delivery left on their doorstep and not be stolen. They want to be able to park their car without someone smashing their window to steal some spare change. Yet little funding ever seems to come together to do anything about that; it all goes into the exciting anti-terrorism unit or drug-enforcement agency and the likem which make up the tiniest fraction of actual crimes.
I am not saying that police prioritize their deployment of officers properly. I’m just saying they likely don’t pay for military surplus.
> Hochul has tried to mount a more aggressive public safety messaging strategy after Republicans campaigned on crime concerns and performed well in House races around New York City in the 2022 elections.
It doesn't matter whether you have a crime wave or not if people watch Fox News and believe you have a crime wave.
If this is the case, why wouldn't she just put pressure on Mayor Adams to deploy more police?
Crime has been trending downward. There was an increase in major crime in January, but it's dropped again. Barring some strange explation otherwise, that can be chalked up to a statistical artifact against a long-term decline:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/06/nyregion/nyc-subway-crime.html
> In mid-2022, there was about one violent crime per one million rides on the subway, according to a New York Times analysis. Since then, the overall crime rate has fallen and ridership has increased, making the likelihood of being a victim of a violent crime even more remote. Last year, overall crime in the transit system fell nearly 3 percent compared with 2022 as the number of daily riders rose 14 percent.
> The downward trend stalled early this year, with the number of major crimes in the transit system jumping in January before dipping again in February. Through March 3, there had been three homicides in the system, compared with one in the same period last year, according to police data. Overall, major crimes, including felony assaults, burglaries and grand larcenies, have increased 13 percent so far this year, the data shows.
This 100%. Sensationalism. She's just using high profile recent issues to _look_ like she's doing something.
How can this do anything but embarrass the city?
1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop-and-frisk_in_New_York_City
But are they free to take public transportation to work?
I got about 5 mins down the road when I realized a couple of large men were running after me. They were clearly cops, though plain clothes. As they caught up to me one pushed me so I'd stop and they blocked my path. Gave me all kinds of grief, wanting to know why I refused. There was an obvious implication that I'd done something wrong. I gave a few cursory answers to their questions, then started responding with "Am I being detained". The latter only incited them further.
Thankfully at some point they gave up instead of actually detaining me. They chewed me out, told me they were going to radio their buddies at upcoming stations so I wouldn't try to get on there either, and stormed off.