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runako
2 years ago
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In reply toGemini AIby dmotz
> specific paragraphs of GDPR

GDPR doesn't target American tech companies, that's the DMA. Essentially, the framing is there are companies that are "gatekeepers" and then everyone else. The criteria for gatekeepers are theoretically objective, but they were written with a specific set of companies in mind. As a consequence, the designated companies except TikTok just so happen to be based in the US. Further, the rules were written such that EU firms like Spotify are not eligible.

Also, Vodafone somehow is not considered a gatekeeper in any relevant digital market.

Anyway, no judgement. We are in a time of rising protectionism. This may be good for Europe. But the DMA clearly targeted a set of West Coast US companies and it's doing what it was intended to do.

I do wish they would modify GDPR to only apply to people e.g. physically in Europe or similar. It really does make the Web worse for billions of people who are not EU nationals and derive absolutely no benefits from the banners.

While they're regulating browsers and plugs, could they make browser makers ship EU versions of their browsers that show the popups, while the rest of us save tons of clicks? EU nationals could install EU versions of their favorite browsers and the rest of us would just use the stock versions.

davedx2 years ago
Isn't it mostly about companies with platforms or app stores? Vodafone isn't a gatekeeper because it doesn't have its own app store.
runakodavedx2 years ago
Vodafone is literally a core part of the Internet platform. It quite literally gates people's access to the Internet.

It's hard to say Instagram, Meta Marketplace, and TikTok are gatekeepers (they has been designated thusly by the EU) but Vodafone isn't.

The law is protectionist, which is fine in itself. But the argument that Instagram is one of the core gatekeepers of the Internet and Vodafone isn't is ridiculous on its face.

Kbelicius2 years ago
> Further, the rules were written such that EU firms like Spotify are not eligible.

Spotify ain't gatekeeping anything so why do you think they should be eligible?

runakoKbelicius2 years ago
One could make a very similar argument about Instagram or Meta Marketplace, but they have both been designated as gatekeepers.
sensanaty2 years ago
What does Spotify gatekeep? Or are you saying that Tidal, Apple Music & Deezer should also be targeted by DMA?

Netflix isn't being targeted either, so it's obviously not purposefully targeting FAANG/M$ and nothing else.

runakosensanaty2 years ago
> so it's obviously not purposefully targeting FAANG/M$ and nothing else.

I did not say that anywhere.

> Or are you saying that Tidal, Apple Music & Deezer should also be targeted by DMA?

I'm just noting that it's curious that the DMA criteria were written in such a way that they exclude the largest consumer Internet company in the EU. That's it, nothing else.